Posts by FatFreek 2005

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Youthful Sexual Victim Fells Goliath -- Thanks Cedars and Nugget

by FatFreek 2005 in

i was able to create the following op-ed submission using cedars (with his permission) own script.

recall his great youtube presentation with nugget as the charming voice.

i hope to submit this in the morning to our democra-gazette as soon as it's vetted here.

FatFreek 2005

they flip flop doctrines more than a pan cake at ihop

I love that, CW. THE GREAT WATCHT0WER CONTRADICTION needs a crisp expression like that.

Len

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Youthful Sexual Victim Fells Goliath -- Thanks Cedars and Nugget

by FatFreek 2005 in

i was able to create the following op-ed submission using cedars (with his permission) own script.

recall his great youtube presentation with nugget as the charming voice.

i hope to submit this in the morning to our democra-gazette as soon as it's vetted here.

I was able to create the following OP-ED submission using Cedars (with his permission) own script. Recall his great Youtube presentation with Nugget as the charming voice. I hope to submit this in the morning to our Democra-Gazette as soon as it's vetted here. I want to present nothing that can't be substantiated. Please check it out and make your constructive suggestions.

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A dramatic episode is unfolding that may affect your view of those who knock on your door. In a recent check, Google News pointed to some 898 articles that tell the remarkable story about an otherwise unremarkable young woman - a Goliath meets David story.

In a historic legal precedent, The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc. (Jehovah's Witnesses) lost its attempt to keep the ever-accelerating episodes of pedophilia behind closed doors. A jury found Watchtower behavior regarding its handling matters of child abuse to be unlawful in the aftermath of sexual abuse of a 9 year old girl.

California woman Candace Conti, now 26, was not interested in the traditional Watchtower settlement -- money. She only wanted the truth of her experience to be made public - justice to be done. That meant painfully recounting her experience on the witness stand in front of a jury of strangers.

But why make a large corporation, which directs the actions of some 7 million mostly law-abiding Jehovah's Witnesses, responsible? Conti was molested by a fellow congregation member in Fremont North congregation, California. This happened in the mid-1990s when Candace was only nine years old. What about the perpetrator, a Jonathan Kendrick? This JW - who ironically remains in good membership standing -- is now on the Sex Offenders Register, having been convicted of sexually molesting yet another child in 2004. Why penalize a corporation known by its followers as The Society, to pay up to 2.8 million dollars in compensatory damages, and as much as 21 million dollars in punitive damages (if their planned appeal fails)?

First, there is their two witness rule. This virtually shields the monster who simply makes sure that his dastardly act is private - between him and his prey. If that child molester denies the wrongdoing then local congregation elders will acknowledge that horrific event only if someone other than the child witnessed it. Otherwise, they are instructed by the Society's privately issued elder's manual to "leave the matter in Jehovah's hands" -- simply stated, do nothing. Worse, victims and their families are often intimidated and coerced into not sharing their hideous experience under threat that such action would be slanderous and grounds for disfellowshipping (translation: mandatory shunning by family members not within the same household).

Second, the local elders are instructed to always contact the branch office when they hear allegations of child abuse. This is, in effect, unlawful since law enforcement should always be the first ones to know when a crime has been committed. The Society has wrongly insisted that the victim take a back seat, that the branch office should be first to know in order to properly control damage to its own reputation.

It should be here noted that no encouragement is given the victim that she (or he) submit to a "Physical Evidence Recovery Kit," or PERK. With such kit, experts collect among other things, DNA evidence. This silent witness has proved far superior when compared to testimony by some human witnesses. The terms PERK and rape kit are absent in Watchtower's massive library of public literature since 1950 and in its private instructions to elders, "Pay Attention To Yourselves And To All The Flock".

Thanks to her bravery, Candace Conti may unwittingly be the recipient of financial wealth she never imagined. Thanks to her bravery Goliath may be forced to retreat, rewriting its decades-old policy. More important, some of the many thousands of other victims may be inspired to come forward with their own story, knowing that Goliath has been felled.

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Len

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Who Can Benefit From the Door to Door Ministry ?

by wasblind in

we have the benefit of the d2d ministry of the jehovah's witness.

they alert unsuspectin' householders wit a knock on a door.

and wit the click of a mouse, what do you think that housholder will find ?.

FatFreek 2005

Hi Heaven,

Thanks for the compliment. Hey, that is a snazzy emoticon.

Len

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Candace Conti video on YouTube - let's send it viral!

by cedars in

i've uploaded a video that discusses the dramatic jury verdict regarding the abuse suffered by candace conti, of which you are all aware.

if you're not yet familiar with the story for any reason, please check out my blog article on the link below.... http://jwsurvey.org/general-information/the-watchtower-punished-society-loses-legal-battle-over-child-abuse-case.

john hoyle suggested i get a youtube video out fairly quickly so that we can spread the message more effectively online.

FatFreek 2005

Cedars,

Despite those minor flaws, a great script. Fact is, I'd like your permission to loosely use it in essay form for an op-ed to our Arkansas Democrat Gazette. If so, my email is [email protected]. Um --- please note that it is disguised with several digits that need to be removed before it works.

Nugget -- beautifully read.

Len Miller

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Who Can Benefit From the Door to Door Ministry ?

by wasblind in

we have the benefit of the d2d ministry of the jehovah's witness.

they alert unsuspectin' householders wit a knock on a door.

and wit the click of a mouse, what do you think that housholder will find ?.

FatFreek 2005

Hi Chariklo,

Sorry about that. I noticed that tinyurl link on that image was no longer working so I needed to delete the Photobucket image before resubmitting the new one. Unfortunately, that takes several hours before the new image is integrated and working.

Meanwhile, this link should take you to a page of 6 duplicates of that handout on a single page, convenient when you wish to have several handouts in your billfold or purse.

Len

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Who Can Benefit From the Door to Door Ministry ?

by wasblind in

we have the benefit of the d2d ministry of the jehovah's witness.

they alert unsuspectin' householders wit a knock on a door.

and wit the click of a mouse, what do you think that housholder will find ?.

FatFreek 2005

If they call on me I cherish the opportunity to see that that JW can benefit. They will get a small handout that looks like:

When they get home and work up enough courage, they may look up the link at the bottom that takes them to THE GREAT WATCHTOWER CONTRADICTION, an 11 minute read where they can save it to their hard disk, bookmark it for future, etc.

The ones that have called here so far have all promised to get back to me to resolve those above conflicting articles in their own literature. They ask, of course, if it's all right with me to come back. My answer is always "yes, please do".

In the past several years some 5 have done this and I have yet to see a single one return.

Len

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Announcements regarding congregation accounts report is back on for Service Meeting

by oppostate in

with the last service meeting the reading of the local congregation accounts report will be back on the schedule being read from the podium..

FatFreek 2005

That way it won't take long to accrue $28 million to pay off a few debts.

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Father's Day, For Witnesses or Not?

by dontplaceliterature in

i did a quick cdrom search on this holiday.

there is not a single article that ties this holiday to paganism.

there are a few about mother's day.

FatFreek 2005

Hi dontplaceliterature. That is interesting. It's been some 35 years since my last circuit assembly so I've forgotten things like that.

I did a little search on my own WT Lib CD and you may be surprised at what I found.

As his knowledge of Scriptural truth increased, so did his understanding of birthday celebrations and worldly holidays and Jehovah’s view of them. When this man’s wife organized a social gathering for Father’s Day, he politely refused to attend. She felt, though, that he did not love her anymore and was putting his religion ahead of her and the family. He kindly explained that applying what he was learning from the Bible was helping to transform him into a better husband and father.The Watchtower, 1994, 3/15 p. 8, Jehovah’s Witnesses Around the World--The Bahamas.

True Christians do not need "Mother’s Day," "Father’s Day," "Christmas Day," "Easter Day" or other holidays that are outlined by the world because, while it is true that some persons might in all sincerity give on these occasions out of love, when they become Christians they refrain from having their giving marred by association with any holidays of pagan origin.The Watchtower, 1968 2/15 p. 119 par. 12, Working What Is Good Toward Those in the Faith.

As a footnote, one of my sons -- not a JW -- had me over to his place yesterday for Father's Day and treated me like a king. Great meal which this 49 year old prepared, my choice of movie on his 47" LED flat screen, and best of all -- some bonding that we'd never had as he only recently moved nearby.

Len

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Father's Day, For Witnesses or Not?

by dontplaceliterature in

i did a quick cdrom search on this holiday.

there is not a single article that ties this holiday to paganism.

there are a few about mother's day.

FatFreek 2005

Absolutely not. Haven't you heard about new light? Honor thy mother and thy father is so old light. Whose idea was that?

Instead, let's honor our former Watchtower leaders in a dedicated museum space at Bethel such as I've heard -- photographs, documents, and other Memorabilia -- is so fitting. Such grand leaders have had a distinctive place in Jehovah's organizational history, far greater than a lone parent -- mother or father -- as those only are significant to a few children, grandchildren, etc.

Len

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From a currently serving elder: an open letter to the organization

by elderelite in

there are 1000's who who hate this religion who are stuck ....inside it.

we work against you, we use our position to convince and sway those that still drink your koolaid.

we feed info to authorities who chase you, we warn off potiential converts by directing them to the real truth.

FatFreek 2005

Hey Elderelite,